Q&A with Adam Andrzejewski
Founder and CEO of OpenTheBooks.com
What are the purposes and goals of your organization, OpenTheBooks.com?
At OpenTheBooks.com, our mission is to capture "every dime taxed and spent at every level of government ? fedderal, state and local across America." Our efforts make low-level Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests obsolete in the digital age. We are creating an information marketplace where the debate between the left, center and right squeezes out waste, fraud and duplication.
Our country's founders understood that information is power and wrote transparency into our nation's founding documents. For example, Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution states, "? a regular Stattement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time." Today, the interpretation is clear: Our motto ? Every Dime. Online. In Real Time.
We are the world's largest private database of government spending that's publicly accessible, with three billion government expenditures online. Our honorary chairman is former U.S. Senator Tom Coburn, Oklahoma. We display nearly all disclosed federal spending since 2000; 48 state checkbooks; and large portions of salaries, pensions and vendor spending in roughly 40,000 of 90,000 municipalities.
We are on pace, over the next 18 months, to complete our first full record of all government expenditures at every level. You could say we're a spending genome project. Our aim is to map spending at all levels.
We believe government spending should be done publicly, not cloaked in the privacy of an outmoded, expensive, intimidating and bureaucratically controlled process.
You ran in the Illinois Republican gubernatorial primary in 2010. What did you take away from that campaign? Did that lead you to found your nonprofit?
I ran against the entire incumbent political class ? Republicans and Democcrats. In Illinois politics, if anything happens for the good of the people, it's entirely by accident. The number one manufactured product in Illinois is corruption. I advocated a CSI-style "forensic audit" ? a deep, adversarial, follow-the-money audit to root out waaste, fraud and corrupt practices. The tagline slogan of my campaign was "every dime, online, in real time." It resonated on the trail, and I really believed in the message.
OpenTheBooks.com was founded in 2011 to execute on my promise. We quickly realized that every state, locality and even the federal government needed transparency and oversight. Today, we are fully dedicated to our non-partisan, charitable mission to hold the entire political class accountable for their tax and spend decisions. Our mission is worthy of a lifetime legacy, and I'm not interested in running for office.
Tell us about a few of the most eye-opening examples of outrageous local and state government expenditures that your organization has revealed.
We've published nine oversight reports on federal spending. We found Minister Louis Farrakhan is a "farmer" with $317,000 in federal farm subsidies.
The Small Business Administration gave private country clubs, golf clubs, beach clubs and swim clubs $160 million in taxpayer-backed, low-interest loans since 2007.
The EPA spent $92 million on high-end, luxury furniture during a period when 2,000 employees were downsized at the agency.
In June, in an op-ed published on the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal, we showcased 67 non-military federal agencies who spent $1.5 billion on guns, ammunition and military-style equipment since 2007. Now, the number of federal officers (200,000+) with firearm authorization exceeds U.S. Marines (182,000).
We found the VA added 40,000 new positions (2012-2015), but fewer than 3,600 were doctors. Unfortunately, today 500,000 veterans are still wait-listed for a doctor's appointment.
In Illinois, we discovered a pair of union lobbyists actually received $1 million lifetime teacher pensions after substitute teaching for one day in a public school, even after the legislature passed a law expressly designed to stop them.
In June 2016, OpenTheBooks.com filed a Freedom of Information Act requesting more than 1,500 government bodies in Oregon to produce their expenditures, public employee salaries and pension information. What was your goal in asking for this information? Why are you and your organization interested in Oregon?
Our goal is to capture and display online every dime taxed and spent at every level of government across America, including Oregon. The recent news headlines in Oregon were similar to those in Illinois: scandal in the governor's mansion. As quoted in ancient proverbs and by Michael Dukakis, "A fish rots from the head down."
We are excited about the prospects in Oregon to enforce open records law and initiate a new era of citizen-led government reform.
You recently wrote in The Register-Guard about asking Oregon's attorney general for a review of your request because "39 local units of government want to charge us more than $40,100 in special fees just to produce simple records of public employee salaries." Your organization does work in a lot of states; how unusual are these types of fees?
Since 2011, our data capture specialists have filed over 125,000 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. We work with the biggest units of government in the country, including the United States Office of Personnel Management, City of New York, California Public Employees Retirement Systems (CALPERS), Comptroller of Texas, and approximately 40,000 smaller units across America. None of the larger governments have ever charged us a fee, and it's very rare for the smaller units to charge anything as well.
The State of Oregon did not charge us a dime for the public employee salary file (2010-2015) and the state checkbook (2011-2015). But at the municipal level in Oregon, it's often "death by invoice." Over and over again, municipalities are trying to force us to pay for legal review and other fees. There should not be a "transparency tax" in Oregon or any state. (Review the entire FY2015 Oregon State checkbook by ZIP code on our interactive mapping platform.)
There's also another issue we'll ask the attorney general to clarify: the Public Employee Retirement System (PERS) rejected our request for salaries but fulfilled our request for the retirement annuities. We feel PERS erred. It's settled law that public employee salaries are of the public record. We feel our case is solid and will substantially increase the flow of public information.
Of the 1,509 Oregon governmental units that you have asked to compile records of all government expenditures, salaries and pensions, and vendor transactions, how many have complied? How many have levied extreme fees (which is a violation of Oregon's open records law)? Is Lane County the worst offender with a fee of $23,000?
We are not asking Lane County to lead the charge on openness and accountability ? only to follow the law, as has virtually every state and 600 locaal entities in Oregon to date. Currently, 600 units of Oregon government have produced a responsive record, and our teams are working with hundreds more units as they deliver data. Only about 43 units want to charge us an extreme fee, and we refuse to comply with this "transparency tax."
Out of the 125,000 FOIA requests that we've filed since 2011, Lane County is the all-time champion of the transparency tax ? trying to stick us with a $23,487 bill. In 2013, San Bernardino County in California wanted to assess a fee of $13,200 to produce its public salaries, but we've never seen a bill like the one from Lane County.
Our request is for basic payroll information: Who is employed, and where do they work (the agency)? When did they start? How much did they make last year? What's their title?
It is important that taxpayers be able to follow the money and see exactly where their money goes and to whom. This information must be produced when requested and should not take an outrageous sum of money to procure an electronic copy. After all, it's not their money. It's your money!
Unfortunately, a Lane County commissioner, Jay Bozievich, recently posted blog comments that double down on the anti-transparency stance and misconstrued our request for public information. To clarify the record, we've opened the books on our request and subsequent email exchange with county officials. Readers can review our three attempts to persuade the county to comply with the law and the county's steadfast insistence to charge us $23,487.
Let's be clear. Our salary record request doesn't take much time to fulfill and is a matter of settled law.
According to a 2012 National Education Association study, Oregon ranks 14th in teacher compensation, yet the state routinely has one of the nation's worst high school dropout rates. In 2008, Oregon teachers unions spent $357 per teacher on political campaigns, the highest figure in the nation. By contrast, Colorado's teachers unions were second that year in political spending, at $157 per teacher. Are you surprised by the level of public employee union political dominance in Oregon?
Across the political spectrum, from the Bernie Sanders left to the Donald Trump right, everyone is decrying a rigged political system. Have the public sector unions gamed the system for the personal gain of their membership in Oregon and set up an unholy pay-for-play relationship with politicians for more pay, perquisites and pensions?
At this point, we have no idea. But, here's what we do know. All sides can't gainfully or credibly debate these critical public policy issues without hard data. Big data at OpenTheBooks.com will play a large role in the public square by quantifying metrics, benchmarking performance costs, and, ultimately, driving robust efficiencies.
Back in 2008, we fought the public sector unions on salary and pension transparency in Illinois. Specifically, at the College of DuPage (COD) ? the ssecond largest college in the state ? it was a knockdown, drag-out bbattle to open the books on public salaries. Ultimately, we were successful and set the transparency standard. Then, by 2014, the teacher's union at COD was our ally in reining in waste, fraud and duplication. Together, we helped bring a new day to the college.
You recently discovered that Oregon has 1,690 state employees receiving annual salaries of more than $100,000, costing taxpayers $258.3 million in payroll benefits and pension costs. Just six years ago, in 2010, Oregon had only 730 six-figure salaries in state government, costing taxpayers $117.5 million in compensation? Is there a correlation between political dominance and burgeoning public salaries?
The new "minimum wage" for state government public employees is fast becoming six figures. In 2010, only 730 state employees made $100,000+, and today there are 1,690. The trajectory of state government pay is worrisome. For example, with two six-percent pay raises, an additional 1,300 Oregon state workers will join the $100,000+ salary club.
Of course, escalating annual public salaries pad the lifetime pensions. The latest numbers displayed at OpenTheBooks.com from PERS show 1,853 retirees received $8,000 a month ($96,000/year) in 2015 ? up 50 percent from 1,227 retirees in 2012. >
In order for stakeholders to simply engage in the pay and pension policy debates, we need better information. For example, PERS refused to release retirement annuitants "last employer." Wouldn't you like to know which units of government conferred the most six-figure pensions? How about being able to track double dippers from retirement to their next public salary? Even in union-dominated Illinois, we are able to easily compile deeper and more useful information.
Who is going to win this fight between your organization and those Oregon governments who don't want to comply with their own state's Freedom of Information Act?
We are testing whether or not the law applies to public bodies. Can government in Oregon violate the law and hide its spending data from citizens? Unfortunately, just a few public bodies will create all kinds of excuses from "our accounting systems are old" to "it costs too much." They'll say, "It's already online," and it's not.
We've heard it all before, and it's nonsense. Government must follow the law. Incompetence is not an excuse. "Where government spent our money" is the most important data set for oversight. It's our money and taxpayers deserve to see every dime. So Oregon, don't test our will and wallet; just get on with it. Join the transparency revolution!
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